jtbears
Mar 26 2009, 07:13 AM
What is the style called when a drawing is rendered in only dots? I have been playing around with it latley and its pretty interesting. Also is there anyone out there that uses this style, and if so you could post some of your work.
mumwond
Mar 26 2009, 10:44 AM
I think you are talking about Pointillism. There's a thread further down started by Lobosr about his work . It it amazing and must take forever to produce.
bigs
Mar 26 2009, 02:01 PM
Hi
jtbears, when it is used in paintings its called pointillism, like in Georges Seurat's work.
In ink (or pencil) its called stipple work. I am no expert but I love to play with it on occasion, especially when a piece almost begs to be done in this style. Here are a couple of ATC's I've done in stipple - the sports may be foreign to some so the 1st one is Australian Rules Football and the player is flying high and taking a mark (that is catching the ball on the full from a kick, and when the big men fly they will often climb up another player to get the ball before it comes into reach of the opposition). The 2nd is of Adam Gilchrist who was the Australian Cricket Team Vice Captain, and one of the biggest hitters in the game. Here is hitting a sweepshot. And the third needs no explanation.
I hope this is of some help to you.
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mumwond
Mar 26 2009, 04:51 PM
Ooops! Sorry!!
jtbears
Mar 26 2009, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the timley reply Bigs. Your drawings came out great, can I ask how long it took to complete one?
jtbears
Mar 26 2009, 05:26 PM
This is one I tried yesterday, I used alot tighter dots and over lap them to try and create shading, btw my fingers the hold the pencil are killing me now
jtbears
Mar 26 2009, 06:24 PM
Does anyone know what type of pens would be used for this style of drawing?, it would seem to be easier to render it in ink.
Frithy
Mar 27 2009, 09:20 PM
QUOTE (jtbears @ Mar 26 2009, 10:24 AM)

Does anyone know what type of pens would be used for this style of drawing?, it would seem to be easier to render it in ink.
I am no expert ,but all the work that I have seen my friend do in pointillism is done in micron ink pens , they come in various sizes, so that you can have different size dots.
Check out wet canvas ther is some info on there and you could Google it as well. here should be a lot of info on this style on the net.
bigs
Mar 28 2009, 06:34 AM
Not bad jtbears!
I use Micron pens and have 0.01, 0.03, and 0.05 as the sizes that I usually use.
The stippling takes a little time to do but its not that bad. I first work out my drawing and mark in contour lines where I want different depths (or the amount of dots). Once I have the linework and drawing done on cartridge or bond paper (or whatever I have that I don't care how much I ruin it with erasing) I then transfer the finished outlines to the "good" paper very lightly. When all the stppling is finished leave it about 1/2 an hour and the ink should be dry and then its safe to erase any visibly pencil lines. Please make sure on a scrap piece of paper that the ink will not be smudged by the erasing....nothing worse than getting right to the end only to ruin it in the clean up!
And yes check out Wet Canvas, there is some in the pen & ink section and also in miniatures. If you can get a hold of any Claudia Nice books from your local library she is well worth reading for this and other methods with ink.
rsine
Mar 28 2009, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (bigs @ Mar 26 2009, 03:01 PM)

Hi
jtbears, when it is used in paintings its called pointillism, like in Georges Seurat's work.
In ink (or pencil) its called stipple work. I am no expert but I love to play with it on occasion, especially when a piece almost begs to be done in this style. Here are a couple of ATC's I've done in stipple - the sports may be foreign to some so the 1st one is Australian Rules Football and the player is flying high and taking a mark (that is catching the ball on the full from a kick, and when the big men fly they will often climb up another player to get the ball before it comes into reach of the opposition). The 2nd is of Adam Gilchrist who was the Australian Cricket Team Vice Captain, and one of the biggest hitters in the game. Here is hitting a sweepshot. And the third needs no explanation.
I hope this is of some help to you.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachmentActually, when done in color like what Seurat did, the correct term is divisionism.
rsine
Mar 28 2009, 10:37 AM
Some of my work in stippling.
rsine
Mar 28 2009, 11:35 AM
color version
1_8
Mar 28 2009, 03:36 PM
jtbears & rsine your work is good, I like it, how much time did it take (on average)?
jtbears
Mar 28 2009, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (1_8 @ Mar 28 2009, 10:36 AM)

jtbears & rsine your work is good, I like it, how much time did it take (on average)?
well the dagger was my 1st try at it, It took roughly 4 hours.
bigs
Mar 29 2009, 02:54 AM
rsine, great work - I especially like Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc. I am sorry I checked on the dividionism and found out my art teachers were all wrong....huh fancy that! I have had it wrong all this time because I never thought to check on what I had been taught in school.
Thanks for the right info, it'll save me getting into strife again.
1_8
Mar 29 2009, 03:23 AM
QUOTE (jtbears @ Mar 29 2009, 12:14 AM)

well the dagger was my 1st try at it, It took roughly 4 hours.
Then how long would the portraits take?
this sure requires lots of patience...
rsine
Mar 29 2009, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (bigs @ Mar 29 2009, 03:54 AM)

rsine, great work - I especially like Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc. I am sorry I checked on the dividionism and found out my art teachers were all wrong....huh fancy that! I have had it wrong all this time because I never thought to check on what I had been taught in school.
Thanks for the right info, it'll save me getting into strife again.
The reason it's called divisionism is because instead of blending or mixing colors, the colors are seperated into their individual components. When someone views the painting as a whole, the viewer's mind blends the colors to form the image.
rsine
Mar 29 2009, 12:26 PM
QUOTE (1_8 @ Mar 29 2009, 04:23 AM)

Then how long would the portraits take?
this sure requires lots of patience... It can take a long time and lots of patience. That's why when I did the Angelina Jolie one, I didn't use stippling to do her hair because it would've taken too long to do.
1_8
Mar 29 2009, 12:47 PM
QUOTE (rsine @ Mar 29 2009, 05:56 PM)

It can take a long time and lots of patience. That's why when I did the Angelina Jolie one, I didn't use stippling to do her hair because it would've taken too long to do.
That's true, but on the whole it is looking good.
jtbears
Mar 29 2009, 05:25 PM
I know what you mean rsine, after a solid 4 hours of working my fingers are usually killing me.
rsine
Mar 29 2009, 10:44 PM
QUOTE (jtbears @ Mar 26 2009, 06:26 PM)

This is one I tried yesterday, I used alot tighter dots and over lap them to try and create shading, btw my fingers the hold the pencil are killing me now

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learning12
Apr 17 2009, 01:41 PM
this dot pattern gives out a great effect. amazing!
bkluver
Apr 17 2009, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (rsine @ Mar 29 2009, 06:23 AM)

The reason it's called divisionism is because instead of blending or mixing colors, the colors are seperated into their individual components. When someone views the painting as a whole, the viewer's mind blends the colors to form the image.
Well...actually, the term Divisionism refers to the
theory of how colors placed next to each other react and the term pointilism refers to the actual technique. But then, I suppose you can always find another opinion written by someone else as to what each means.
At our school we do teach it as pointilism when teaching the technique; stippling when using pencil or pen and ink.
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