I am unsure on that one a little and had the same question.

First of all, let me apologize for not being very clear on my directions..............I'm sorry.

I am wanting a figure drawing (you may use your erasers now) that shows some definition. I don't need you to draw all the muscles of the body. Look at Blade's drawing - something similar to that. Just enough that you can show that the figure you are drawing has some muscles and not just a flat body. Make it look more realistic. I do not need you to show the trapezoids and/or ovals or stick figure underneath. But more 3 dimensional. Again, faces and hands and feet not important for details.


Again, I apologize


Joanie

Thank you for the clarification! There is no need to apologize...I sometimes have to ask because english is not my first language. Thank you again!

Well, I find it much easier to draw the outside of a body as compared to the under structure. But of course once I learn the under structure, I am sure they will be much more accurate.

Here is my muscle mass..

Lori - these are both very good - especially the girl at the phone booth. the manikin has shoulders that are rather large though. You might want to rethink that one. LOL






Venus - this picture is just fine. Hope that hand gets better soon.



Rose - I'm really not sure about this drawing - looks like the head is way too small for the body. Its really not in proportion.





Yoona - these are both very good. Keep up the good work.



Brian - the manikin is good - but alas, the poor girl is out of proportion. Her legs are too skinny and her bum sticks out too much as well as her stomach. The arms are not very symetrical. Try her again and I'm sure you will do better. I like the little muscle man. LOL



PeeWee - they don't suck! they look pretty good if you ask me. you seem to have the proportions correct.



Rafael - good job on both of them!





Blade - Good job on both pictures - I believe you got the hang of it.



Rose - I like all three drawings here - again for some reason those shoulders look so big - is it the head that is too small because I can see your underdrawings to get your measurements correct.

The 3rd drawing is really what I was looking for. I'm sorry I didn't explain very well in my directions. Good job. These look a lot better than previous drawings - so I'm seeing improvement.






Gmags - very good on both drawings!!!



Chloe - Good job on the girl at the phone booth. The manikin could use some work - his left arm seems to be way out of proportion to his body.






Jack W - no problem with the erasing - I wasn't really looking for the underdrawings. Both your drawings are spot on!!!




Cyn - this is very nice - I thought you said you were struggling with these? This looks really good.



Blade - this is a good one! Keep up the good work.

I really injoyed this lesson

Here are my three drawings for the lesson

Meow - Very nice drawings. You did very well. Glad you liked this. Keep on practicing and don't stop. LOL

Lesson 3 PE 2a

Ok, this is a toughy. The young lady seated is not only completely clothed, but most of the features I felt like needed shading were obscured by other parts of her body. As I started trying to envision the anatomy underneath, I found that perspective went to the wayside and I kept trying to place her in a "head on" position instead of from above as indicated. I especially had a problem placing the folded back leg and muscle shading.

Blade - I see what you mean - you did pick a tough one to draw! It looks fine with the exception of that one leg. Maybe you could get an adult to pose for you in that position so you could SEE exactly how to draw it instead of from a picture. Even a child posing might work. Perhaps drawing it from another angle might put it into perspective. It is an awkward position to put that leg in!! LOL

Perspective is coming up pretty soon in the lessons.

one down,....two to go...

John

John - Very nice............you're doing a great job.

Once again thank you Joanie.

Here's my Exercise 2.... if you think it's too sketchy and would like to see more detail, please let me know.

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Rose - that's exactly what I'm wanting ..............this is your best drawing so far..............I think you have overcome that large shoulder syndrome LOL hehehehehehee

excersise 2 and 3 lesson 3.....

John

Ha! Ha! John - I like your fig leaf!! Nice drawings!

thanks....

I better post this now before I get a chance to mess it up completely...let's just say that my eraser got a good workout I know her right shoulder isn't correct ( or is it? ). Because of the angle she was standing at and of the clothing, it was hard for me to get it right. But, it wasn't for lack of trying.

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LOL John great drawings..I had forgotten I had given Joanie the pictures of my husband when before we started the class and was looking at your male drawing and just burst out laughing saying hey thats my husband with a fig leaf!! Great job and good laugh for me.

Joanie as you can tell I haven't even read the lesson 3 yet but I will start on it tonight!! Was a busy weekend!! Still trying to recouperate from working so hard and seeing a bunch of great concerts!! Ok so off to take son to get a hair cut and then back to the drawing board!!!

Here's the rest of the lesson for this week. Again, had a slight problem getting the angle right on the girl seated. It was fun to do these though and a great learning experience. Thank you!


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Joanie, sorry I was so taken by John's fig leaf I didn't see your comment. I think I have trouble constructing the figure... or maybe I should have stuck with the two heads for the shoulder width rather that 2 and a quarter. In any case I'm much better at drawing what I see I suppose.

I shall attempt the last exercise tomorrow hopefully and I'll try to choose the more difficult pose and see how I do with that.

thanks joanie-- i agree about the manakins shoulders. i just dont know about that one. i drew lots and lots and either the shoulders were to wide or the legs to short. my son has tons of body building magazines so i am looking and getting ready for lesson 3. been studying those muscles too. i wish i would have paid more attention in health class now. was not my best subject!!!!
Lori

Thanks joanie. The reason I said they suck was I drawed them so many times that when I layed down to sleep & closed my eyes there they were on the back of my eye lids. lol [attachmentid=5406]

I'm here with my final exercise for the week. I chose to do the difficult one too. I know you said not to draw in the face so I'm asking you to ignore it too. I only added in some features because they helped with some of the alignment. I must say this is getting very interesting and I'm learning a lot from it. Thank you Miss Joanie.

(In case you all think the boobies are not the same size - well the left one is slightly hidden by the arm OK! )

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Nice job Rose.... I tried this one but gave up because I could not get the one leg to look right . I do intend to revisit it once I am more comfortable with my abilities....

Thank you my friend.

No need to be hard on yourself John. Believe me it took me a while to figure out that leg. The trick is to realise that in that position almost all the heel is hidden and rather than the side of the foot what you see is the sole upturned at a three quarter angle.

I hope you realise that a naked drawing of a figure that is actually dressed is much more difficult than drawing from life. With that it mind I think we should all pat ourselves on the back for what we have achieved.

Don't you think so Miss Joanie?

Rose - you are sooooo right! I can't believe that most of you tackled the hardest picture presented!!!! Hoooorayyyy - that shows a definite willingness to try to challenge yourselves.

I am getting a tremendous feeling of satisfaction in teaching this class. You all seem to be dedicated enough and it is definitely starting to show. I know we all don't have the time for this but by sticking to it, you have shown me you want to learn.

Everyone is doing really great - I actually can see improvement in just these 3 weeks that we've been doing this - Its awesome for me - and I know you all know you are doing great - you can give yourselves a pat on the back and a big hug from me.

Hi Joanie,
Sorry this is late. I took a much needed vaction to Chicago. I am enjoying the lessons. Thank you for taking your time teaching us.

Denise

rose great work. you did a fantastic job on that picture
Lori

This was a real toughie I did it last night but couldn't post it.That back leg lol anyhow gotta start on the other two.

Nice job on these, Denise - but that was the last lesson - you need to still post this week's lesson on muscles. Hurry Hurry Hurry - I'm just reminding you. LOL You have until Sunday to post them.

Good for you, Tim. You at least tried to draw that awkward leg!!! If I were drawing it, I would have quit. LOL hahahaha and picked a different picture.

I know what you mean, PeeWee - sometimes we just need to walk away from a drawing because it drives us crazy



Just so everyone else knows, we are going to tackle that picture again in a later lesson..........so don't worry about it too much.

LOL Joanie, the awkward leg goes with an awkward and very out going personality!! She is great though, and if you like, I can always email her and ask her if she can do that certain pose nude...it isn't showing too much..... Or at least in her underwear to get the muscle tone values. She is an artist herself so I am sure she would have no problem with it. We had art and graphic designing together in high school, and I have known her since middle school on top of being roommates after we graduated...LOL. So I am sure she will do it for me. its what friends are for...

Ok these are not my best drawins in the world and if I have time inbetween my study unit for my online class and these babies, then I may redo them. I drew them at like 2am last night or this morning..lol. Wasn't tired and felt like drawing, its been awhile.

The three exercises for lesson 3.
Thanks again Joanie for your patience and endurance with us.
I am enjoying the learning process

#1~From my imagination
#2~Girl sitting on floor
#3~ Male pose by the pool

hi,
here are my exercises for lesson 3.
for the 1st ex, i was trying to draw someone on running track but it turned out like he's crawling.. and for the ex2, i tried to fill in the muscle tones, but was a bit of a guessing game, especially with the leg that's in the background.
thanks for these lessons Joanie. it's fun and very informative

My try at lesson 3 ex 1...........Interesting lesson....but I think I am failing

wow everyone is doing great. venus just love your work--how is your hand doing?
well here are mine-- first one i drew from my imagination, and the last two are from the references provided. i last one needs work so i plan on working on it more tonight if i get time.
Lori

Thanks Lori..I tried at least. My hand is doing a little better. I switched the brand of ink pens I was using and it seems to be alot better. Plus my trusty hand wrap. I am also taking alot of breaks in between writing.

My try at lesson 3 ex. 2.

My other two drawings ...one has the modern figleaf

I found it very tough to do the muscle mass without a reference ....so I imagined myself hence the censorship.

Tim, you are soooo funny. Love the censorship..


Here are my examples. Not the best but I'm working on it.

Hi

here are two exercises for lesson 3

Rafael

...A good one Tim.......

My try at another lesson 3 ex 2......

Hello to all my Figure Drawing Students:

I have a little bad news for all my figure drawing pupils. I won't be sending out any drawing lessons today. I will try to send one out tomorrow but I'm still not sure on that either. Nothing serious, just have been under the weather lately and now have caught a cold/flu on top of it all. I will post something on this thread if I am not able to send it out.

However, this does not mean that you don't have to draw anything this week! hahaha Please continue to draw from the pictures you were sent last week or if you have any of your own or better yet, have someone to pose for you. If you want to submit them on this thread, I will comment on them when I get a chance.

I apologize for this inconvenience and hope to be up to speed by next week.


Joanie )

Miss Joanie hope you'll be feeling better soon!

You must have caught it from me Hope you feel better soon

Hi
here is my last excercises for lesson 3

and Joanie I hope you'll be feeling better soon

Rafael

Awww Joanie, I hope you feel better soon. Don't worry about us here, we'll just practice from what you have said and worry about the next lesson when you are better. I was wondering why I haven't seen you for a few days. STOP, working yourself so hard and take some personal time!!

rest joanie and i hope you feel better soon. my hubby had something that lasted about a week and half. i dont know whats going around, i thought flu season was over. but rest and feel better soon
Lori

So sorry you are not feeling well, Joanie. I just got home from my week of Florida vacation so it is fine with me. I will send my lessons soon. p.s. I had such a wonderful time!!!!

Judyvan

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