QUOTE (texaslady-59 @ Jul 6 2009, 12:12 PM)

I fully understand the concept ,but it is not in my being to to do a fast self portrait and think it's anything but a rough sketch... I suppose in the initial drawings as we all know, we start out with a rough sketch and it looks like a 2 year old drew it ,I believe for most it is that way in order to get the basic idea on paper..at least it is with me.. Understood..I see beyond it and cannot wait til it is finished .. I guess what I am trying to say is .. if in your minds eye you have the picture then however you reach the final image is your own.. be it personal or school taught..how one achieves the image in the thought process is the Artistic and the process of transferring it to paper or canvas or what ever it lays on is the Art..
I could do a fast drawing of a Chicken right now but all it is ,is a fast drawing waiting to come to life.. exactly what you are saying getting past the unnecessary information.. a rough sketch..
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I share your opinion.
Teachers like to talk and repeat about 'loosening the fingers and wrist' as if that is all there is to drawing.
The 'limbering' up is fine when that is what you want to do, but to say do a drawing in 5 or less minutes,
is for the pros as they sit in court or at a conference and they hastily do their thing for later refinement.
Note for later refinement for that is what they do!
I have seen them in action and don't envy their frenzy.
Anyone could hastily sketch anything and you don't need teacher's repetitions on this.
You said it perfectly "I fully understand the concept, but it is not in my being to to do a fast self portrait
and think it's anything but a rough sketch".
It is what it is ...a rough sketch and not a self-protrait!
Touche.