QUOTE (Nekuma @ Dec 10 2009, 09:06 PM)

I am considering taking these courses. They all seem to have great results, but they're all from photos... all of them... drawing from photos is good, but you can't just learn from photos. I thought drawing from live observation was more important. I want to know if any of you who have completed this program can apply the same skills you seem to have learned from direct observational drawing. Can you draw a self portrait with an ever changing mirror to guide you? Can you do a still-life where the object is actually right in front of you? Please understand, I'm not trying to start a fight here, I'm just a skeptic. I'd honestly like to know. If it turns out that the skills reflect into direct observational drawing, I'll be convinced that this course will be something I want to take in the future.
Hi Nekuma, Because you are seeing alot of artwork that looks the same, I can see where you might think that the only way the students are learning to draw is by copying photos, but that isn't accurate.
There are 6 units in total, the first unit is designed to teach how to draw a good outline drawing. The methods taught include using a grid, or a construction drawing The idea behind learning to use a grid or how to draw using the construction method actually is to train your artists eye so that you are constantly asking yourself questions about what you are seeing, you learn to compare angles,estimate distances, proportions and with practice you become more accurate.
In Unit 2, you are taught acrylic painting techniques, color theory....and you are right, nothing is original...you are learning techniques.
In unit 3, all of the outline drawings that you use will be provided to you so that you can learn shading. The reason for this is to save time, because to shade properly, it takes time and patience! That is why you are seeing so many shoes that are the same... we aren't excited by the shoe, but by the accomplishment of shading it really, really well! We are able to do it because of the techniques that are taught.
In Unit 4, you will start the fun stuff. You will start to learn how to sight. how to judge proportions, and believe me you would not be able to draw a self portrait without knowing how to measure. The self portrait is drawn using both a mirror and a photo, and is not drawn with a grid. It would actually be very difficult to draw an accurate self photo using just a mirror as you would draw a mirror image of yourself... it is what you see, but people see you differently. You would have to draw the mirror image of the mirror image in order for it to be correct. It is drawn in charcoal, using sighting skills. (do you see how the skills are being built up as we go along?)
In Unit 5 you will be asked to draw from life in the perspective class, again using sighting skills that you've developed. So here you are drawing from live observation as you say. In addition, you are taught basic 1 and 2 pt perspective and will draw a room to scale from your imagination, no photos!
And in the final unit you will learn how to create original art, where ideas come from, composition and you'll create an original painting ( not from a photo). By this time, you will have learned all the skills necessary.
I am in the final class, week 2 . We've just completed an exercise that required us to find a painting by a well known artist and analyse the composition. I will never look at a painting the same way again.
Nekuma, I guess what I am telling you is that you will learn so much more than just how to draw from direct observation if you take all of the units. A few years ago, I took live evening classes where we only learned to draw from life, and that was great, but I didn't learn technique, I didn't learn the basics and that is what you'll learn really well with Cindy's classes.
After the initial 6 classes are completed you have the option to enter a 1 year mentoring program, where the only requirement will be to create 6 original artworks in the year. This next year of study will be more about personal development and honing my skills with Cindy's help. There will not be structured classrooms persay, but she will tailor my study to what my goals are... for instance one of the things she is going to send me is a short course in life drawing , so I will learn even more about proportions, angles etc while drawing nudes.After taking that short class I will start to go to a drop in life drawing class in my city and will feel comfortable drawing a live model .
In addition to teaching you how to draw, Cindy is generous with her knowledge about every aspect of becoming an artist. I can't tell you how valuable that is. I hope that I have answered some of your concerns, I can only tell you that I have not regretted taking these classes. Good luck and happy drawing!