the perception on the face from different angles, have a very hard time getting the stuff on the right place were it should be, when the face, for exempel is leaning downwards and to the side I'm completely lost and in desperate use of an easier way than the old fashion way of sketch and pray and hope it looks somewhat human in the end. so if someone can write up a guide or help me with it i would be very apprechiated

and a little sidenote: have been lurking here for a while and had just to say thank you for putting up such a excellent site, done tremendous progress and own a big piece of that thanks to you.

sorry for my English by the way, maybe should have put a warning in the beginning for the weak minded?

Hi bogeyman! Just wondering what you are drawing from? Are you looking at a live person, a photo, or tring to draw out of your head?

I suppose you could just use a camera, and get another person to kneel down, and you take some reference photos of the angle of the head you want. [You may have to bribe them ]

If you want to do it out of your head, using reference photos to begin with can teach you, so that you can repeat it [maybe not quite as well] when necessary.

drawing mostly from mind, but occasionaly from photographs to, but have a very hard time when it comes to different angles in the face, real humans isn't exactly my style, I'm drawing more of a mix with fantasy and reality then anything else, and It's quite hard to find a real life smilidon (bad example i know) lurking in your neighborhood . And no it's not animal faces, It's with the humans i have problems with, insn't there any golden rule you can sketch from, i evidently got it right but that's not before several trials and errors, for about a hour or so

you can go after?

Many years ago I started playing the guitar. I decided to learn classic guitar and because of this style I learnt where every note was and could make and augment any chord I wanted anywhere on the instrument.

My point being (at last) is in order to draw fantasy art such as mythical beasties, warriors etc, you must really get to know real human and animal form including facial proportions and expressions (I base my dragons on chickens and bats) and in that way you’ll have a much greater understanding of where things should be and why some things just don’t look right.

I know I keep repeating this ad nauseum, but I haven't met any artist yet who can draw fantasy figures without basing them on a reference point that is reality based.

Any figure, no matter what pose has the same positioning and body movement as a human or animal.

The advice you've received is sound. You have to learn traditional art techniques to be able to successfully draw fantasy pieces. All these anime and gamer art pieces start out as real life references, then the embellishments are added to make them unique after the form and position are correct.

As for head position. Your challenge seems to be that of foreshortening which is where intersections of facial features don't match what you have in your head - the left side of your brain is trying to label and make it 'correct'. But you need to draw exactly what you eye sees, not what your brain tells you to draw.

Looks at references and drawings of heads at all angles and practice drawing them til you're comfortable with that. Add the creature features once you've conquered the technical aspects of drawing.