Hi I am new to drawing, been doing it for two weeks, and ive seen some video drawing lessons on www.youtube.com and I thought maybe brenda could do some higher quality ones. Afterall people learn in different ways and you tube would open up drawing to a whole different category of people. Well thats my suggestion, hope you do it. Thanks

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I've watched a few drawing videos on youtube also. . . it would be awesome if Brenda did one.

I've always thought videos are a very bad way of learning except if you are learning graphical design. Then, they are essential!

I think is a powerfull way to teach us to draw better. I have seen some too. Some are incredibly usefull.


But i dont believe Brenda will do it ... not in the near future ...

Now .. what i sugest is that we users, could contribute and make our own videos. We could create a specific topic or area in this forum for the "members videos"


Sounds usefull ?

good suggestions..and if to hear modulator..were usefull for members

have a nice
what do you wish

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yes this would be a really good idea

I understand the desire to see a virtual drawing take place, but I don't really know the benefit that it would have against, say a static work in progress, that is present in the lessons already on this site. Do you learn more from seeing a hand drawing a circle, from reading the technique for drawing that circle and seeing the process and result or from doing it yourself? They are all valid methods of learning, but which is most effective? Are video demos a trend or is there some actual research into their benefit for learning? Techniques are learned indeed by demonstration, but more so by practice.

For those who have watched the videos, have you learned something from it? Did you draw along with the video or simply watch it and like the concept? How do you think this method would help you draw better?

A video, due to the small size allowance provided on most upload sites, limits what can be shown. A video that provides enough instructional time to show a technique effectively would be very large unless it was broken into tiny increments of say 5 minutes each. I know there are other upload sites that are independent and allow larger file uploads.

However, that's not to say that it won't happen, but it does have challenges that would need to be overcome, as well as analysing the benefits of providing a lesson in this format.

Myself I would rather have a lesson outlined for me to follow ..I can understand for some reading and understanding could be less effective then watching a video ....but what i have ran into was a video that goes in steps .. some of the steps are not clear and its like they have skipped ahead ..because of time on tape maybe but it gets confusing and I feel im still on my own ...nothing beats a class ..face to face class but those are costly .
here at Drawspace there have been plenty of great classes held and they were very close to a class setting ..I would like to see more of those .

I've made video demos, and posted them on youtube. (there are none there now, read on, for why...).

By the time you've shot a segment of video, edited it together, put on a voiceover, and posted it on youtube, it takes a whole day to do a clip that lasts 5 - 10 mins. The two I did were to show the brush-handling involved in glazing in oilpaint, and I did them so that they could be one small part of an extended class I was running on a forum. The point of the videos was to show how straightforward the glazing technique is.

Despite making it very clear on the youtube pages, and the soundtrack voiceover, that they were linked to the tutorial, and only showed very specific technical points, I got loads of comments on youtube, most of which asked (to be blunt) pretty stupid questions (like "is that a pencil drawing you are painting over", when I'd said on the soundtrack that it was a grayscale underpainting in oils), along with lots of comments that they wanted to see me "finish the painting".

A year later, I found them being quoted, completely out of context, on another painting site, and the glazing colours I'd chosen being criticised (I'd deliberately made them bright - and said so - so that they showed up clearly on the video, given the poor quality of youtube images). So I removed them, as they had served their purpose.

I think video-demos can be useful, and I am prepared to do more in the future, but they are a great deal of hard work, and, out of context, are likely to misunderstood by many of the viewers. I see them as a technique of last resort, if it's not possible to communicate ideas by other means. Unfortunately, I get the impression that when people ask for videos, often they are looking for entertainment more than for information.

Dave

I completely agree with Dave on this thread. When i started drawing again, after many years, i scowered the internet for reference material and watched endless hours of drawing videos. But in my opinion the videos were more for entertainment value than a learning resource. It was great to see the image take shape but to learn from it would take hours of pausing the video as you followed the steps. The only way to learn, again in my opinion, is to pick up the pencil, brush etc and do it. Make your mistakes, learn from them (but don't throw them away) and try, try, try again. If you are patient enough and love drawing the time spent will pay off.
I also agree with Jeanette that the file storage on this forum would be huge, if videos were posted. Nice idea but i don't think many members would agree with it. That's my pennies worth....
Martin

Hello am also new to drawing, im searching those video's in you tube now. Im excited to learn this stuff really.

Well, I cannot speak for anyone else, but I believe they are more helpful for those such as myself who have been practicing
for a long while and look for something new to try. An example would be the "gnomon workshops and university" classes that come out of Pasadena California. They are fairly complete but specialized, such as "concept art", " interiors and exteriors" creating thumbnails through to a finished piece. They are on full dvd format. However, there are none that I have found that will assist with things such as watercolor, or color pencil. and those that are available are geared to draw the illustrator , artist in a direction that they had already been leaning. There is also those dvds from "Glen Vilppu " where you are no more then just another student. the dvds are ment to be paused and followed along with. I have watched a few from expert village that were 10-20 minutes long and are free and cover many different subjects in many genre' or media , if you will. Personally, I think anything and everything one wishes to use is helpful in its own right. but as many have said , none of this will have any effect if one does not invest one's self.

hello...Iam new in drawing isee this lessons and i injoy it very match ,sorry i dont know english very well , but i want to thank branda very match about the lessons of drawing thank you branda

i opened some tube videos and i get nothing from them,yes... the draw skill of that people look great but i win nothing with that,think the best way of learning is get technical info here or other place....get the pencil and...and draw..and draw...and draw....and draw...and draw....and draw....and draw....and draw....and when you'r tired....draw a bit more..lololol..

have fun drawing