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Songsparrow
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siksnosparnyte
Yeah, that's pretty ironic. biggrin.gif

"Whose Line Is It Anyway" used to make me laugh.
ElenaM
One thing that makes me always laugh is Healthnews from Reuters.They keep discovering stuff that has been said from Hippocrates and the ancient oriental schools of medicine but they label them as new research studies.
shadow2b63
QUOTE (Songsparrow @ Sep 12 2009, 01:47 PM) *
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Steve,
I think our dogs are related. Angie
Ernest Friedman-Hill
QUOTE (ElenaM @ Sep 12 2009, 03:10 PM) *
One thing that makes me always laugh is Healthnews from Reuters.They keep discovering stuff that has been said from Hippocrates and the ancient oriental schools of medicine but they label them as new research studies.


??? Let's have an example.
ElenaM
One example, Ernest is that Music has therapeutic effects and enhances cognition. Mozart effect is just a new label to an old school of greek pedagogy/philosophy that taught math and music together(Pythagoras).Not to say that trivium and quatrivium , the seven liberal arts were taught in the medieval time based ogn the greek model of pedagogy.Music being taught together with geometry, arithmetic, astronomy(quatrivium).
Anyway if one visits Pergamum in western Turkey has a chance to see one of the old sanatoriums for the mentally ill with rooms for music and an amphitheater for staging plays and music for the patients.It's impressive to see that back then(hellensitic period) the mentally ill were treated better with more respect and consideration than let's say before the 20th century Europe and North America.Music and drama were the main therapeutic ways of dealing with these ailments.
*Roxy*
My roomate's dog would have done the same if not worse. That dog chews about anything that he can find including garbages, dishes, plastic bottles. It's not funny when he does it though but that pictures funny. I laugh at alot of stuff it depends what I guess
kim1963
Elena you are so deep lol

This made me laugh ...happened at the lab yesterday .. me and kellie my daughter went for her labs and I was waiting in the waitingroom and a man of about 83 or so was setting out there .. he looks at me and said " I know I have very big feet " I said " well thats ok ...people in my family have big feet "
he then adds ( That must have been the ice breaker lol ) anyways he adds "I have had three surgeries in two months " I was like " wow no kidding .. what did you have done " ( he wanted to talk so I am a talker and did not mind ) anyways he tells me he had a anyerisum in his heart and he said I did not die ... I said well great I am glad you didnt .. he said then my pace maker shorted out ...and I said ..oh my ! wow ..your still here though .. then he said ...my defibulator stopped working ...by this time I feel sorry for the man ...I did not know what to say then he adds .. got up this morning and check the paper ... and my name still was not in it ...took me a second but I got it lol he was soo cute I gave him a high five .. and we both laughed .

silly but I love when stuff like that happens and you can laugh ....bless that mans heart .
Ernest Friedman-Hill
QUOTE (ElenaM @ Sep 12 2009, 08:08 PM) *
Music and drama were the main therapeutic ways of dealing with these ailments.


Charles Manson was quite familiar with the Beatles' work, and of course John Wilkes Booth was quite the theater buff, so I think there might have been some holes in that world view. smile.gif My point being that while you can say that intuitively music has some theraputic benefits, it's only by making quantitative studies that you can know what those benefits are, and come to understand how and when they appear, and how to apply them. Nonscientists often laugh about this sort of thing, but understanding things about the world in a quantifiable way is not a laughing matter.

Native Americans did know that willow tea could relieve pain. But willow tea also gives you terrible heartburn and literally eats holes in your stomach. By learning that salicylic acid was the active ingredient in willow, scientists were able to try sodium salicylate (which tastes terrible, but works too) and eventually acetylsalicylic acid (which Bayer eventually trademarked as Aspirin) and finally buffered aspirin tablets (which don't bother the stomach at all.) Many controlled studies were necessary to understand the effectiveness of each of these drugs. Was that funny, or worthless?

Not to detract from the knowledge of the ancients, but having a vague, intuitive sense that willow bark helps relieve pain is not the same as understanding why, quantifying it, and working to improve it. I'm sorry if I am sounding all hostile about this, but it touches a nerve: we are still in the middle of perhaps the most anti-intellectual period of world history since before the Enlightenment, and the image of scientists as blundering, out of touch objects of derision is especially irksome to me.
Songsparrow
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Elena you are so deep lol

This made me laugh ...happened at the lab yesterday .. me and kellie my daughter went for her labs and I was waiting in the waitingroom and a man of about 83 or so was setting out there .. he looks at me and said " I know I have very big feet " I said " well thats ok ...people in my family have big feet "
he then adds ( That must have been the ice breaker lol ) anyways he adds "I have had three surgeries in two months " I was like " wow no kidding .. what did you have done " ( he wanted to talk so I am a talker and did not mind ) anyways he tells me he had a anyerisum in his heart and he said I did not die ... I said well great I am glad you didnt .. he said then my pace maker shorted out ...and I said ..oh my ! wow ..your still here though .. then he said ...my defibulator stopped working ...by this time I feel sorry for the man ...I did not know what to say then he adds .. got up this morning and check the paper ... and my name still was not in it ...took me a second but I got it lol he was soo cute I gave him a high five .. and we both laughed .

silly but I love when stuff like that happens and you can laugh ....bless that mans heart .


lol. That's a lovely story! I hope he doesn't see his name in the paper for a long while yet! happy.gif
oliverandjazz
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LMAO laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!
ElenaM
Sorry,Ernest your extrapolation brings the native americans at a same level of achievement in medicine or science with the ancient greeks(from which we trace all our modern sciences). Besides it's not me who is disrespectful of science but look at this country which still has 35 training institutes of Psychoanalysis-a method that is non measurable as opposed to pharmaceutical drugs in which the dosage is the factor of improving a mental condition and then tell me that i am laughing for nothing.(And believe me psychoanalysis doesn't ever take me out of my catatonic state but the drug, yes brings me back to my own self).

According to Mozart effect "studies" which ended up in controversy mostly for the fact that were claiming it raises your IQ, the governor of Georgia announced(in 1998) that his proposed state budget would include $105,000 a year to provide every child born in Georgia with a tape or CD of classical music.Sounds like pop science to me; and a populist political game.(I come from a culture in which pop science never existed and authors like Nigel Calder, author of Einsten's universe were not even translated; you had to read Einstein or to study at the University in order to know or become familiar with his theories.Yet in my primary school, early 60's I was told by my math teachers to listen to classical music when I do my math homework. Which means that this is older than measuring the Mozart effect on my IQ in the 90's wink.gif )
Besides those who trully quantified the benefits of classical music to cows were the Belgiens in the '70s when studies proved that cows were giving much more liters of milk after listening to classical music.Now that is rediscovered again in the 2000 with UK farmers.
Nothing new under the sun.
All these studies are simply justified expense for the money they receive for research and never mention that there is old evidence or the studies were performed already at an earlier date.They claim they are the first who"discovered" this or that.
Ernest Friedman-Hill
The great achievement of Hippocrates and his contemporaries was the development of a logical method for diagnosis and tracing illnesses back to a cause. But everything they knew about those causes -- the "four humors" model -- they fabricated out of thin air. They built their logical system on top of a bubbe meise, so in reality they knew nothing. The true empirical method and the requirement for a testable hypothesis didn't appear for millenia (although to be fair, you could argue that Aristotle had the germ of the idea, but it was not put into practice by the Greeks.)

The ancient Greeks lumped music and math together because they're related, not because music makes you any smarter. Listening to Western music helps give you an innate understanding of concepts like intervals and subdivisions, fractions and multiples. There's nothing deeper than that, no profound neurological mystery, and the Greeks didn't suspect there was. It's just that you can't build a Western musical instrument that's actually in tune without understanding certain kinds of math, nor can you compose Western music without the same knowledge. The ancient Greeks invented their music and their mathematics simultaneously because they're intimately related. The same is not true for all other musical traditions.

In any case, if you're laughing at politicians who misunderstand science, that's fine with me. There are plenty of ignorant public figures out there.
Songsparrow
QUOTE (Ernest Friedman-Hill @ Sep 13 2009, 06:00 PM) *
In any case, if you're laughing at politicians who misunderstand science, that's fine with me. There are plenty of ignorant public figures out there.



They make me cry.
ElenaM
QUOTE (Ernest Friedman-Hill @ Sep 13 2009, 10:00 AM) *
They built their logical system on top of a bubbe meise, so in reality they knew nothing.



With the library at Alexandria burned down we might never know what they really knew.
WE live in an atomic age but how many of us know that atom is a greek word and Indian and Greek philosophers established it as the smallest division of matter.It took our western science several hundred years to beat that science.
I understand that for a non philologist i.e person who never studied classical texts is hard to give credit to the ancients but the vocabulary of science betrays the origin of most specialized scientific terms as Greek or Latin.
When you are familiar with names and work done before our era by Leucippus, Democritus, Heraclitus, Empedocles you really feel respect for early science since it started from nothing, yet it is the foundation of mostly all we have today.
Mindy__
Cutting here in between intellectual debates... giraffes seem to be a big theme around here lately, this one made me laugh. Obese giraffe.
Songsparrow
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oliverandjazz
biggrin.gif that is tooo funny Mindy biggrin.gif
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siksnosparnyte
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Well... The most funny thing here is the toilet with no place to shut the door when you're sitting there.... (Oh, and no door too. Maybe it's grandma's favourite TV-chair laugh.gif )
oliverandjazz
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Songsparrow
smile.gif It's nice to start a new page with a laugh.
Songsparrow
oliverandjazz
tis why we have no garage tongue.gif
Songsparrow
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tis why we have no garage tongue.gif



We don't have one either.

Now...

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oliverandjazz
My husband makes me laugh, right outloud, he says i have one of those contagious laughs. He says anyone around me that hears me laugh, cant help but laugh themselves laugh.gif
kim1963
Thats too funny steve lol ....Kay I bet you do .. I can almost here it in your typing and how you word things lol .

Ernest .....this is for you smile.gif
Deqsan
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This makes me laugh, I had a difficult time learning to ride a bike!!


As far as the debate is going with regards to 'science', the more science reveals of this world the more I realise what a wonderful Creator my Heavenly Father is!
ElenaM
I agree with you Deqsan. God created a perfect world, it is us who spoil His creation everyday.
oliverandjazz
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Songsparrow
QUOTE (ElenaM @ Sep 14 2009, 02:35 AM) *
I agree with you Deqsan. God created a perfect world, it is us who spoil His creation everyday.



I disagree. if you look at the places that man hasn't had much of a hend in, it's usually **** on earth! Overgrown jungles full of poisonous creeping things. It's man that has created the beauty of this planet.
Deqsan
QUOTE (Songsparrow @ Sep 14 2009, 05:04 PM) *
I disagree. if you look at the places that man hasn't had much of a hend in, it's usually **** on earth! Overgrown jungles full of poisonous creeping things. It's man that has created the beauty of this planet.

Well songsparrow, there's much in your statement to debate and refute, for now though, from a theological perspective, the world was created perfect, it's man and the original sin/rebellion which made this world the way it is now (Genesis), but, by the grace (unmerited favour) of God we can still see something of the beauty God intended.

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I am sure this is proving amusing to some, maybe this debate should be started somewhere else?
Deqsan
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this made me laugh biggrin.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

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Brought a smile to my face too!
Songsparrow
QUOTE (Deqsan @ Sep 14 2009, 06:29 PM) *
Well songsparrow, there's much in your statement to debate and refute, for now though, from a theological perspective, the world was created perfect, it's man and the original sin/rebellion which made this world the way it is now (Genesis), but, by the grace (unmerited favour) of God we can still see something of the beauty God intended.

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I am sure this is proving amusing to some, maybe this debate should be started somewhere else?


But if you let a beautiful garden return to nature, Does it not return to an overgrown mess? If a footpath is not regularly cut back, mother nature will cover it with brambles and the like. I guess it all comes down to whether there is in fact, a God? Some of us think not.
Songsparrow
oliverandjazz
laugh.gif that is too cute
kim1963
so cute I had to look twice lol
oliverandjazz
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now this is my kitties laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif
Deqsan
QUOTE (Songsparrow @ Sep 14 2009, 08:27 PM) *
But if you let a beautiful garden return to nature, Does it not return to an overgrown mess? If a footpath is not regularly cut back, mother nature will cover it with brambles and the like. I guess it all comes down to whether there is in fact, a God? Some of us think not.

Again to restate in a different way what I have said, the reason why you have to toil to keep your garden looking good is because mans sin has spoilt this world, the brambles, weeds, decay, death! May I recommend http://www.christiananswers.net/ well worth a look whatever your own views might be. All manner of quetions are answered from a Biblical perspective.
sipsik
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now this is my kitties laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif


Well, this one is for you then. smile.gif I just love this pic.
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And this is for your kitties. smile.gif
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kim1963
ok lets keep this fun smile.gif no debating .
Deqsan
QUOTE (kim1963 @ Sep 15 2009, 04:36 AM) *
ok lets keep this fun smile.gif no debating .

I agree, should be on another thread, enjoying the funny pics so far, especially the hippo! laugh.gif
oliverandjazz
those are too precious sips wink.gif biggrin.gif
oliverandjazz
here is my lil boy kitty, hoax, he simply fell asleep there after he and his sister had a hard day of play, now this i thought was very funny. I took it yesterday

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Songsparrow
kim1963
Hey I love the cat pic ..speaking of sleeping cats .. I found this and thought it was so cute I kept it .

sipsik
Toilet sign
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Who is this?
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Little course of project management
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Nancy B
Ahh Kay that is to cute.
oliverandjazz
tyvm..they are a riot
oliverandjazz
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