Thanks to Raidor, Carol, JacquiP
I really wish to draw the portrait of the lady. Fascinating (and challenging).
But may be this WE only.

Amazing work Carol!

Beautiful drawing Carol!! So much detail.. you're good

Nice painting Raidor!! I feel the same about watercolors... I don't dare touch them..

Excellent drawing!!

This is really good Jacqui.. and in pen too.. great work

I have no idea why you're upset with these flowers because they look perfect to me. Very very good work

The expression is superb. Great drawing Norma!!

This is really beautiful Raidor!! great painting!!

Very good drawing!!

Beautiful painting!!

But you do have it.. you just don't realize it. Your flowers were amazing

Well.. I think I'm all caught up and my comments have pushed us to the 4th page.

Thanks my friends !
Here is a test on the portrait. Ink. Just to see the proportion. I'll be back.
She (the drawing) looks happy, but I AM unhappy, because she (the drawing) is not her (the photo). The teeth (error), the teeeeeth! Impossible to draw this picture. Must wait for Bobby.

the test looks beautiful

NVA this is really good. Great line work. Look forward to seeing what you will change and how.

Jacqui

Thanks, Raidor, Jacqui! The eyes are not difficult. The most difficult is the mouth.

I don't really like criticizing other peoples' work, but of you hadn't made the lips so dark, the teeth would not have stood out so much.

Yep that mouth threw me big time ,, i started it ,stuggled as normal with eyes, then started the mouth and realized this was going to be a disaster so not continued as yet

LOL i just do what I can and I think your painting was awesome"

after the first 2.5 hours = headache: )

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the skin looks like a "too hot bath", the hair color is even wrong - to the eyes, nose, lips and teeth I dared not me

this will be a tough job - I ask myself the whole time "why only in watercolor and not in pencil ????"

You are absolutely right. This was to have an idea.
Second assay :
Fig1 (right): The elements are there. Looked for light and shadows. I drew often quickly with ink pen, therefore the lines are too hard. Too small teeth, nose must be bigger.
Fig2 (left): May be a little better. Nose and teeth still too small. Abandon. Cannot draw small portrait with pencil. No hope !
However, I learned a lot. Can do better if have more time (some hours).
This was fun and pleasure !

That's her, Carol. I realized the difficulty. Especialy when I tried!

I love it too ! Very brillant. I can never do that. Too impatient. Must learn however!

Beautiful colors, Raidor! I have not drawn with WC since a moment. Must return to that. Thanks

Very beautiful, Jacqui. I'll give a try to this old house.

Thanks for having tried! So lovely daisies, Carol !

An I suppose that we all have the desire and it is a strong one for me to learn .. patience is the hardest lesson .. I know how badly I want to do flowers and the daisies honestly started out well.. even I was impressed with me.. But dog gone it.. I still had to throw a monkey wrench in and rip the paper.. I hope you don't give up on portraiture.. If you won't then I won't give up on flowers ..okay ? okay..
the mouth is triple hard .. not only lips and teeth but the gums are showing as well.. outlines on the mouth should be light but darker than the gums.. only the corners of the mouth should have a darker value.. try not looking at it as a mouth but as lights and dark's.. maybe that will help.. there are so many tutorials out there on drawing eyes noses and mouths..that could help as well.. Onward and upward.. we can do it !!

Portraiture in watercolor is probably one of the hardest to do.. I am very impressed ..no,,more than impressed at your attempt Raidor.. you have to work quickly with watercolor and once that area is applied you have to let it dry before moving on or one bleeds in to another.. I use a hairdryer to dry the areas I want to work with.. also kleenex to dab up any extra blobs of unwanted water or paint..
I thought I would never be able to control the color and the amount of water to use and still at times have trouble.. Like my watercolor attempt needs to be done again only softer..and not so many washes.. I promise once you get comfortable and learn how to repair then you will love it.. Keep going Raidor .. you are catching on fast !!

Thank you, thank you, Carol, I'll continue. Yes, I must proceed slowly, as in the atelier, but there, we drew a portrait for 3 hours!
Now, to relax, here is a daisies-like composition for fun (background in charcoal, petales drawn with an eraser)

NVA the daisies have come out so well. Love the effect of the charcoal.

Jacqui

I had a play with the daisies in watercolour. I did them in negative painting but then overworked the background. Not too happy with the end result, but I gave it a try.

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Today I decided to get really adventurous and try the portrait in graphite. I am not good at portraits and was scared of those teeth and that smile. Here's how I did.

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Jacqui

Good,, we have a pact now.. Patience and taking our time .. You know I had never thought about doing the flowers this way.. Looks like fun.. and the results are beautiful.. I will have to try it out..I bet it would also have good results on a scratch board painting .. I have never done one of those either but I have a friend who does.. Often I said I would ,,but procrastinate.. Thanks An..

You know Bobby has such a wonderful touch with graphite,,, I bet he could offer you a wealth of information..my observations are not as professional but here is what I do know ...you did the mouth really well.. The lighter gum area and the slightly darker lips ...Try and lighten the nose area across the bridge and have the nostrils the darkest .. no harsh lines.. under the eys perhaps take the lines away .. those tend to age her.. rather light smooth shading.. a soft kleenex could smooth some of those out..or lift them with a kneaded eraser.. try it on a sample paper .. over time try squirkleling .. there are some lessons here on Drawspace in that technique.. I am not near the portrait master as Bobby but maybe if I haven't confused the issue this will help.?
Jacqui the flowers ? what can I say .. Lovely !!!,,I will have to throw the Frisket away and work those petals Bravely ..

I tried the lilies with my Inktense pencils, but got completely lost with the leaves. About 8 x 10 ins on cartridge paper.

Hey Bobby, Looks like you are having a great week!
Thank you for hosting!

amazing, awesome job

wonderful drawings Jacqui and the lilie mumwond is more than beautiful

many thanks Carol for your words, yeah - it's more than difficult for me to paint with watercolor - but I have fun

( + headache )

been watching this thread ,,if I only had the time to join in ..but everyones work is very good .

I was wondering if that house was for rent ? seriouly there is so much character there .

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For the portrait, you got the general proportion ! One recognizes her easily. You and me need times to get light and shadows softly. Patience, said Carol !

I agree, Raidor, portrait in WC is really a challenge. Especially for this photo.

You know Kim I noticed that there were curtains and blinds still in that house .. wonder if it is occupied ? It does have such Character.. It looks so peaceful doesn't it..

Never never again watercolor without having enough practice

terrible, I get the skin color not out

okay, here the result ( before it even gets worse )

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Jacqui I meant to ask you on this drawing in pen .. did you sketch it out in pencil first ?

I decided to challenge myself this week by trying to draw this pretty woman without using a grid, this is my first rough sketch very lightly drawn. Criticism is welcome. I'll post the next step later tonight.

Thanks so much for the tips and advice. I did this pretty quickly and didn't really notice some of those dark patches till I scanned it. I might try and work on it some more today and see how I go.

Jacqui

Thanks so much. Yes that wonderful word patience. I need a bit more of that.

Jacqui

No pencil, just pen. When I draw with pen I just use the pen. Over the last couple of months I have been making an effort to do some drawing with pen. It is really scary knowing you can't just reach for an eraser but it is also helping my confidence, I think. Give it a go on a few rough sketches. I have found it addictive.

Jacqui

You got the hair and eyes really good. Skin tone on the neck is great. Think you overworked the face. Easy to do. At least you gave it a good go. Well done. Don't give up, just keep trying. You did pick the hardest thing to do with a portrait

Jacqui